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Tick-Tock Man
2003-12-12 06:11:32 UTC
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On page 56 of Cuba's first-grade reading textbook, students are taught
through a combination of words and drawings that the letter ``F'' stands for
Felito, a child's name, and fusil, a military rifle.

``Felito sharpens the mocha [a short machete],'' read the practice sentences
in ¡A Leer!. ``Beside it, he places the fusil.'' Just below the surface of
those simple words lies a deeper meaning, a Communist concept that students
in the Cuban educational system quickly learn, whether they choose to
embrace it or not: ``Estudio, Trabajo, Fusil.'' Study, Work, Rifle.

The phrase is not just the political motto for Cuba's Communist Youth Union.
It has also been the center of Cuban dictator Fidel Castro's hope for the
future of Communism on the island: the interlocking of education and
political indoctrination.

Last October, the government made it clear that ideological content in
schools is a top priority. In closing the government's second national
education workshop -- held in Santiago de Cuba -- Rolando Alfonso Borges,
head of the Ideological Department of the Cuban Communist Party's Central
Committee, declared:

``The front line of political-ideological work with children is school, and
the first soldiers are teachers and other education workers. We have to put
our hearts into political-ideological work, and it must be done in a
systematic way, where each section of the educational system has specific
responsibilities that it must account for and which the party must
control.''

This past school year, children were pulled out of school more than ever to
attend government-orchestrated rallies demanding the return of Elián
González. And according to Santiago Press, an independent press agency in
Cuba, the government has stepped up indoctrination efforts outside school.
It has created a junior version of neighborhood spy networks for children
ages 4 to 13. The agency reported in January that the first children's
committee was formed in Cuevitas, near Santiago de Cuba, under the motto:
``Vigilance, fundamental duty of the child.''

But despite the government's heightened efforts, parents and dissidents say
a combination of limited career and job opportunities and the bleak reality
of daily life under Communism have conspired to make it harder for Castro to
indoctrinate children.

``A lot of young people visit my home and they have many concerns, they ask
themselves why Cubans don't have the same rights as others do -- can't go to
college, can't rent a hotel room in their own city,'' said one Havana
parent, Lázara Brito. ``They say `I'm burning the midnight oil and for what?
I can make more money selling pizza from my house.' These kids are different
than those of past times.'' Political indoctrination is the part of the
Cuban educational system rarely mentioned alongside the praise that the
country receives for achieving near-universal literacy, for having one of
the best academic performances among Latin American countries according to
UNESCO, and for developing top-notch teachers.


BACK TO SCHOOL
Officials will start dossiers on students

As American students head back to school this month for another year of
math, science and grammar, children starting school in Cuba will learn songs
and poems about Castro and Cuban Revolution heroes such as Che Guevara and
Celia Sánchez. Officials will start a dossier on each student, where not
only their grades, but their political and religious activities will be
recorded. The expediente acumulativo escolar, as the dossier is called, will
follow the student to his or her job, where bosses will keep similar tabs.
Elementary school students of both sexes will automatically become Pioneros,
or Pioneers, a kind of Communist version of the Boy Scouts with a heavy
military and watchdog bent. They'll perform neighborhood watches, in which,
generally accompanied by adults, they'll question passersby for
identification, and keep an eye on neighbors.

Middle and high-school students will start their school days by singing
anthems and reciting speeches about a figure of the Cuban Revolution, or
talk about a current or historical event -- from the Communist perspective.
Their teachers will start each class with 15 more minutes of similar
discussion, as required by law. Students will learn how to clean, assemble
and use weapons.
Students with college aspirations must join and remain active in the
Communist Youth Union. They must take part in numerous conferences, marches,
rallies and more military training. They must spend 45 days of their summer
at a country school, working in fields during the morning and attending
classes in the afternoon.

``They say education in Cuba is free, but we have it on very hard terms,''
Brito said. ``Education in Cuba has a political foundation. It doesn't make
students think. It teaches them that the Cuban way is the right way and
everything outside it is wrong.''

Meanwhile, say detractors, teachers are leaving the profession in droves for
better-paying work in the tourist sector and the government is hastily
filling vacancies with graduate education students.

``The goal of this system is to create false nationalism -- something that
has hurt our youth tremendously,'' said Roberto De Miranda, president of El
Colegio de Pedagogos Independientes (the Independent Teachers' Association)
in Havana. ``It is a grotesque invention, a lie that has been perpetrated
for 40 years.''

And it's all for naught, he said.
``There isn't one young person on the island who believes in Communism,'' he
said. ``Our youth is more rebellious by the day and less [academically]
prepared. They reject the system because there is too much manipulation. We
are fooling ourselves if we think otherwise.''
When Castro took over in 1959, he considered education a key tool for his
dream of creating a New Society, where a New Man would be molded to be
devoted to the causes of revolution and Communism.


He declared 1961 ``the year of education.'' Education was nationalized,
private schools were ordered closed, and a sweeping literacy campaign was
started, designed to indoctrinate the country's illiterate population --
then estimated at 24 percent -- while teaching people to read.

The regime's first minister of education visited Russia, and brought back
ideas on blending education, physical labor and political ideology.

Old textbooks were replaced with ideologically correct new ones. Literature
contrary to Communism was banned, and in its place, students began to read,
analyze and write about Castro's lengthy speeches.

``The concept is to use education as an instrument to create a new man,
whose god is revolution,'' said Luis Zúñiga, director of the human rights
division of the Cuban American National Foundation, author of a booklet on
the Cuban education system titled The Children of Fidel Castro. In 1978, the
government passed the 116-article Code of the Child, which includes
statements on the importance of the Marxist-Leninist formation of children
and on the need for the state to protect children ``against all influences
contrary to their communist formation.''

To many parents, that simply means that the government takes away patria
potestad -- parents' right to choose for their children.

This is one of the fundamental lessons Lázara Brito says her 9-year-old son,
Isaac Cohen, is learning in his Havana elementary: ``Two sets of morality.''
Every day, she says, when Isaac's teacher asks him a politically loaded
question, he gives her the expected answer, while harboring in his heart the
very different values that Brito has taught him at home.

``He tells me `Mommy, I tell her what she wants to hear,''' Brito said.
Brito, wife of Miami resident José Cohen, and their three children -- Isaac,
Yamila, 13, and Yanelis, 16 -- were put in the spotlight during the Elián
González case because they have been denied permission to join Cohen despite
having visas since 1996. The children have been harassed in school because
of the family's decision to leave. Although he is only 9, Isaac, who will
start fourth grade Sept. 1, is an old hand at duplicity by necessity, Brito
said. The boy has gotten one type of education at school, and another one at
home, since he entered state-run pre-school, where children are fed
indoctrination, sometimes literally, as candy.

In one pre-school and kindergarten lesson all Cuban families are familiar
with, the teacher asks students whether they believe God exists. Children
who respond `yes' are asked to close their eyes and ask God for a piece of
candy. When they open their eyes and their hands are empty, the teacher asks
them to close their eyes again. This time, the teacher says, ask Fidel for
the candy.
When they do, the teacher places a piece of candy in each of their hands.
``See,'' the teacher will say, ``there is no God. There is only Fidel.''
Another example from ¡A Leer! (``Let's Read''), the first-grade reading
book, introduces children to a pillar of Cuban education --
anti-Americanism -- through a poem titled Girón, after the embattled beach
in 1961's Bay of Pigs Invasion: April is a very pretty month.

"In April, the flowers bloom.

And April is the month of Girón. One time, in April, the Yankees attacked
us. They sent a lot of bad people.

They wanted to destroy the free Cuba. The people defeated them. Fidel led
the fight."

And these days, Brito said, math word problems are about Cuba's symbolic
lawsuit against the United States. In May, Cuba's government demanded that
the United States pay $121 billion in damages for causing economic harm to
the island through the U.S. trade embargo. Washington has never commented on
the lawsuit.

At the end of the last school year, Isaac brought home a survey that Brito
was supposed to help him fill out. A sampling of the questions:

No. 10: Put the following activities in order, according to your tastes.
Among the choices: pionero campouts, neighborhood watch, neighborhood
clean-up, marches, watching television, attending church, and going to a
disco.
No. 14: Before the Revolution, your school building used to belong to people
who now live in the United States. Now, through the Helms-Burton Law, they
are reclaiming it from over there. What is your opinion about this
situation?
Because indoctrination in schools starts early, parents start
``deprogramming'' children early as well, said Jesús Yanes Pelletier, a
Havana parent and dissident. Yanes has a daughter, 14, and a son, 11, both
in middle school.

``After school, I sit them down and I tell them, `Everything that they
taught you today is a lie,' '' Yanes said. ``It's difficult for parents to
make the time to do it, but we have to.''


MIDDLE SCHOOL
`Country school' often means cheap labor, shabby conditions

But as his daughter Jenny grows up, Yanes says he's had more than skewed
course work to worry about. He dreads her having to attend a so-called
``country school.''

For 45 days, middle and high school students are sent to school/work-camps
in the countryside, where they toil in the fields for half the day, then
attend classes. Other students attend country boarding schools, where
children work and study the entire school year, and can only go home on a
weekend pass.
The idea behind the country schools is to allow the student to develop a
sense of community and teamwork while learning about the country's crops. In
reality, say parents and teachers, it translates into cheap labor in often
shabby conditions -- and an opportunity for children to grow up too fast.
Promiscuity, pregnancies, thefts, smoking and escapes to nearby towns are
common occurrences, said Emilia Ruvira, a former drawing teacher in a Havana
technical high school, now living in Miami.

Ruvira helped supervise a country school as part of her duties.
``The school was a wooden house, like a shed, that had bare cement floors,
outhouses and horrible food,'' she remembered. ``There were six teachers and
some staff there -- 10 people in all to supervise 300 kids. At 15, you want
to discover a lot of things. Almost everybody had sexual relations. And with
contraceptives being over the counter, it was easy.''

That scenario is what Yanes fears her daughter would inevitably be caught up
in.
``My daughter has not and never will she go to la escuela al campo,'' Yanes
said. ``The kids do what they want. Sometimes girls and boys sleep in the
same room, divided by a sheet. Thousands of girls have gotten pregnant -- by
teachers themselves.''

This year, a doctor's note managed to keep Jenny from country school. Next
year, Yanes said, he's going to have to get creative.

Andrés, a photographer who sells his work at the artist market alongside the
Malecón in Vedado, said he has started worrying about it early: His son is
nine months old. When he reaches high school, Andrés and his wife Ana say,
they'll find a doctor to say their boy has a spinal cord problem. ``These
are the tricks we do,'' Andrés said. At 17, Marcos De Miranda, one year away
from graduating college, was thrown out of his Havana high school. The
reason:
``They wanted him to say, in front of all his classmates, that his father
was anti-social,'' said Roberto De Miranda, Marcos' father.
When Marcos, now 21, refused, the elder De Miranda said, ``his grades were
lowered and he was thrown out.''

It was a matter of principle, said Roberto De Miranda, but it was a costly
and bitter consequence -- one that is hard to make his other children, who
have suffered harassment at school, understand.

``My kids tell me, `Dad, we can't study, and it's your fault that we are
languishing,' '' Roberto De Miranda said. ``Then I have to talk to them
about dignity, decorum and principle.'' While he admires his son for
standing up to his beliefs, the elder De Miranda can't help lamenting his
and others' futures being cut short.

``How many kids, how many doctors and engineers have we lost because
although their grades were good, they just didn't fit in politically?''
Certainly, Yanelis Cohen Brito is one.

The 16-year-old last saw the inside of a classroom a year ago, when she
passed ninth grade. It was a bittersweet time -- she'd earned excellent
notes, said her mother, but she was told she couldn't enroll in high school
because her family was planning to leave the country.

Now she sits at home all day, frustrated.

When Yanelis was expelled, school officials called her friends' parents,
telling them they shouldn't let their children associate with Yanelis.

Despite that, children have taken to gathering at the girl's home after
school.
``I hear their conversations and they are full of frustration and anxiety,''
Brito said. But most important, she said, ``they have started to think.''

``My generation was much more successfully indoctrinated,'' said Brito, 40.
``They more than any other generation see the difference between what
they're being taught and real life.''

Andrés, the photographer, shows a picture he took of a young Cuban boy in a
school uniform and Pioneer scarf. Next to the student is an ad picturing a
smiling delivery man holding a package. There is irony in the juxtaposition,
Andrés said. The boy is waiting for something, too -- his package, his
future, much as Andrés himself did, years ago. He said he had the typical
Cuban childhood: he was a Pioneer, worked in the fields, learned how to
shoot and clean a gun and march.

``To be prepared,'' he said, laughing.
For what?

Andrés laughed. ``I don't know.''

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.Human rights and education in Cuba
ahlahan
2003-12-13 04:47:21 UTC
Permalink
The funny thing is that

There no education
Theres no work
and if the catch you with a "Fusil" they shoot you on sight.
Post by Tick-Tock Man
On page 56 of Cuba's first-grade reading textbook, students are taught
through a combination of words and drawings that the letter ``F'' stands for
Felito, a child's name, and fusil, a military rifle.
``Felito sharpens the mocha [a short machete],'' read the practice sentences
in ¡A Leer!. ``Beside it, he places the fusil.'' Just below the surface of
those simple words lies a deeper meaning, a Communist concept that students
in the Cuban educational system quickly learn, whether they choose to
embrace it or not: ``Estudio, Trabajo, Fusil.'' Study, Work, Rifle.
The phrase is not just the political motto for Cuba's Communist Youth Union.
It has also been the center of Cuban dictator Fidel Castro's hope for the
future of Communism on the island: the interlocking of education and
political indoctrination.
Last October, the government made it clear that ideological content in
schools is a top priority. In closing the government's second national
education workshop -- held in Santiago de Cuba -- Rolando Alfonso Borges,
head of the Ideological Department of the Cuban Communist Party's Central
``The front line of political-ideological work with children is school, and
the first soldiers are teachers and other education workers. We have to put
our hearts into political-ideological work, and it must be done in a
systematic way, where each section of the educational system has specific
responsibilities that it must account for and which the party must
control.''
This past school year, children were pulled out of school more than ever to
attend government-orchestrated rallies demanding the return of Elián
González. And according to Santiago Press, an independent press agency in
Cuba, the government has stepped up indoctrination efforts outside school.
It has created a junior version of neighborhood spy networks for children
ages 4 to 13. The agency reported in January that the first children's
``Vigilance, fundamental duty of the child.''
But despite the government's heightened efforts, parents and dissidents say
a combination of limited career and job opportunities and the bleak reality
of daily life under Communism have conspired to make it harder for Castro to
indoctrinate children.
``A lot of young people visit my home and they have many concerns, they ask
themselves why Cubans don't have the same rights as others do -- can't go to
college, can't rent a hotel room in their own city,'' said one Havana
parent, Lázara Brito. ``They say `I'm burning the midnight oil and for what?
I can make more money selling pizza from my house.' These kids are different
than those of past times.'' Political indoctrination is the part of the
Cuban educational system rarely mentioned alongside the praise that the
country receives for achieving near-universal literacy, for having one of
the best academic performances among Latin American countries according to
UNESCO, and for developing top-notch teachers.
BACK TO SCHOOL
Officials will start dossiers on students
As American students head back to school this month for another year of
math, science and grammar, children starting school in Cuba will learn songs
and poems about Castro and Cuban Revolution heroes such as Che Guevara and
Celia Sánchez. Officials will start a dossier on each student, where not
only their grades, but their political and religious activities will be
recorded. The expediente acumulativo escolar, as the dossier is called, will
follow the student to his or her job, where bosses will keep similar tabs.
Elementary school students of both sexes will automatically become
Pioneros,
Post by Tick-Tock Man
or Pioneers, a kind of Communist version of the Boy Scouts with a heavy
military and watchdog bent. They'll perform neighborhood watches, in which,
generally accompanied by adults, they'll question passersby for
identification, and keep an eye on neighbors.
Middle and high-school students will start their school days by singing
anthems and reciting speeches about a figure of the Cuban Revolution, or
talk about a current or historical event -- from the Communist
perspective.
Post by Tick-Tock Man
Their teachers will start each class with 15 more minutes of similar
discussion, as required by law. Students will learn how to clean, assemble
and use weapons.
Students with college aspirations must join and remain active in the
Communist Youth Union. They must take part in numerous conferences, marches,
rallies and more military training. They must spend 45 days of their summer
at a country school, working in fields during the morning and attending
classes in the afternoon.
``They say education in Cuba is free, but we have it on very hard terms,''
Brito said. ``Education in Cuba has a political foundation. It doesn't make
students think. It teaches them that the Cuban way is the right way and
everything outside it is wrong.''
Meanwhile, say detractors, teachers are leaving the profession in droves for
better-paying work in the tourist sector and the government is hastily
filling vacancies with graduate education students.
``The goal of this system is to create false nationalism -- something that
has hurt our youth tremendously,'' said Roberto De Miranda, president of El
Colegio de Pedagogos Independientes (the Independent Teachers'
Association)
Post by Tick-Tock Man
in Havana. ``It is a grotesque invention, a lie that has been perpetrated
for 40 years.''
And it's all for naught, he said.
``There isn't one young person on the island who believes in Communism,'' he
said. ``Our youth is more rebellious by the day and less [academically]
prepared. They reject the system because there is too much manipulation. We
are fooling ourselves if we think otherwise.''
When Castro took over in 1959, he considered education a key tool for his
dream of creating a New Society, where a New Man would be molded to be
devoted to the causes of revolution and Communism.
He declared 1961 ``the year of education.'' Education was nationalized,
private schools were ordered closed, and a sweeping literacy campaign was
started, designed to indoctrinate the country's illiterate population --
then estimated at 24 percent -- while teaching people to read.
The regime's first minister of education visited Russia, and brought back
ideas on blending education, physical labor and political ideology.
Old textbooks were replaced with ideologically correct new ones. Literature
contrary to Communism was banned, and in its place, students began to read,
analyze and write about Castro's lengthy speeches.
``The concept is to use education as an instrument to create a new man,
whose god is revolution,'' said Luis Zúñiga, director of the human rights
division of the Cuban American National Foundation, author of a booklet on
the Cuban education system titled The Children of Fidel Castro. In 1978, the
government passed the 116-article Code of the Child, which includes
statements on the importance of the Marxist-Leninist formation of children
and on the need for the state to protect children ``against all influences
contrary to their communist formation.''
To many parents, that simply means that the government takes away patria
potestad -- parents' right to choose for their children.
This is one of the fundamental lessons Lázara Brito says her 9-year-old son,
Isaac Cohen, is learning in his Havana elementary: ``Two sets of morality.''
Every day, she says, when Isaac's teacher asks him a politically loaded
question, he gives her the expected answer, while harboring in his heart the
very different values that Brito has taught him at home.
``He tells me `Mommy, I tell her what she wants to h ar,''' Brito said.
Brito, wife of Miami resident José Cohen, and their three children -- Isaac,
Yamila, 13, and Yanelis, 16 -- were put in the spotlight during the Elián
González case because they have been denied permission to join Cohen despite
having visas since 1996. The children have been harassed in school because
of the family's decision to leave. Although he is only 9, Isaac, who will
start fourth grade Sept. 1, is an old hand at duplicity by necessity, Brito
said. The boy has gotten one type of education at school, and another one at
home, since he entered state-run pre-school, where children are fed
indoctrination, sometimes literally, as candy.
In one pre-school and kindergarten lesson all Cuban families are familiar
with, the teacher asks students whether they believe God exists. Children
who respond `yes' are asked to close their eyes and ask God for a piece of
candy. When they open their eyes and their hands are empty, the teacher asks
them to close their eyes again. This time, the teacher says, ask Fidel for
the candy.
When they do, the teacher places a piece of candy in each of their hands.
``See,'' the teacher will say, ``there is no God. There is only Fidel.''
Another example from ¡A Leer! (``Let's Read''), the first-grade reading
book, introduces children to a pillar of Cuban education --
anti-Americanism -- through a poem titled Girón, after the embattled beach
in 1961's Bay of Pigs Invasion: April is a very pretty month.
"In April, the flowers bloom.
And April is the month of Girón. One time, in April, the Yankees attacked
us. They sent a lot of bad people.
They wanted to destroy the free Cuba. The people defeated them. Fidel led
the fight."
And these days, Brito said, math word problems are about Cuba's symbolic
lawsuit against the United States. In May, Cuba's government demanded that
the United States pay $121 billion in damages for causing economic harm to
the island through the U.S. trade embargo. Washington has never commented on
the lawsuit.
At the end of the last school year, Isaac brought home a survey that Brito
No. 10: Put the following activities in order, according to your tastes.
Among the choices: pionero campouts, neighborhood watch, neighborhood
clean-up, marches, watching television, attending church, and going to a
disco.
No. 14: Before the Revolution, your school building used to belong to people
who now live in the United States. Now, through the Helms-Burton Law, they
are reclaiming it from over there. What is your opinion about this
situation?
Because indoctrination in schools starts early, parents start
``deprogramming'' children early as well, said Jesús Yanes Pelletier, a
Havana parent and dissident. Yanes has a daughter, 14, and a son, 11, both
in middle school.
``After school, I sit them down and I tell them, `Everything that they
taught you today is a lie,' '' Yanes said. ``It's difficult for parents to
make the time to do it, but we have to.''
MIDDLE SCHOOL
`Country school' often means cheap labor, shabby conditions
But as his daughter Jenny grows up, Yanes says he's had more than skewed
course work to worry about. He dreads her having to attend a so-called
``country school.''
For 45 days, middle and high school students are sent to school/work-camps
in the countryside, where they toil in the fields for half the day, then
attend classes. Other students attend country boarding schools, where
children work and study the entire school year, and can only go home on a
weekend pass.
The idea behind the country schools is to allow the student to develop a
sense of community and teamwork while learning about the country's crops. In
reality, say parents and teachers, it translates into cheap labor in often
shabby conditions -- and an opportunity for children to grow up too fast.
Promiscuity, pregnancies, thefts, smoking and escapes to nearby towns are
common occurrences, said Emilia Ruvira, a former drawing teacher in a Havana
technical high school, now living in Miami.
Ruvira helped supervise a country school as part of her duties.
``The school was a wooden house, like a shed, that had bare cement floors,
outhouses and horrible food,'' she remembered. ``There were six teachers and
some staff there -- 10 people in all to supervise 300 kids. At 15, you want
to discover a lot of things. Almost everybody had sexual relations. And with
contraceptives being over the counter, it was easy.''
That scenario is what Yanes fears her daughter would inevitably be caught up
in.
``My daughter has not and never will she go to la escuela al campo,'' Yanes
said. ``The kids do what they want. Sometimes girls and boys sleep in the
same room, divided by a sheet. Thousands of girls have gotten pregnant -- by
teachers themselves.''
This year, a doctor's note managed to keep Jenny from country school. Next
year, Yanes said, he's going to have to get creative.
Andrés, a photographer who sells his work at the artist market alongside the
Malecón in Vedado, said he has started worrying about it early: His son is
nine months old. When he reaches high school, Andrés and his wife Ana say,
they'll find a doctor to say their boy has a spinal cord problem. ``These
are the tricks we do,'' Andrés said. At 17, Marcos De Miranda, one year away
from graduating college, was thrown out of his Havana high school. The
``They wanted him to say, in front of all his classmates, that his father
was anti-social,'' said Roberto De Miranda, Marcos' father.
When Marcos, now 21, refused, the elder De Miranda said, ``his grades were
lowered and he was thrown out.''
It was a matter of principle, said Roberto De Miranda, but it was a costly
and bitter consequence -- one that is hard to make his other children, who
have suffered harassment at school, understand.
``My kids tell me, `Dad, we can't study, and it's your fault that we are
languishing,' '' Roberto De Miranda said. ``Then I have to talk to them
about dignity, decorum and principle.'' While he admires his son for
standing up to his beliefs, the elder De Miranda can't help lamenting his
and others' futures being cut short.
``How many kids, how many doctors and engineers have we lost because
although their grades were good, they just didn't fit in politically?''
Certainly, Yanelis Cohen Brito is one.
The 16-year-old last saw the inside of a classroom a year ago, when she
passed ninth grade. It was a bittersweet time -- she'd earned excellent
notes, said her mother, but she was told she couldn't enroll in high school
because her family was planning to leave the country.
Now she sits at home all day, frustrated.
When Yanelis was expelled, school officials called her friends' parents,
telling them they shouldn't let their children associate with Yanelis.
Despite that, children have taken to gathering at the girl's home after
school.
``I hear their conversations and they are full of frustration and anxiety,''
Brito said. But most important, she said, ``they have started to think.''
``My generation was much more successfully indoctrinated,'' said Brito, 40.
``They more than any other generation see the difference between what
they're being taught and real life.''
Andrés, the photographer, shows a picture he took of a young Cuban boy in a
school uniform and Pioneer scarf. Next to the student is an ad picturing a
smiling delivery man holding a package. There is irony in the
juxtaposition,
Post by Tick-Tock Man
Andrés said. The boy is waiting for something, too -- his package, his
future, much as Andrés himself did, years ago. He said he had the typical
Cuban childhood: he was a Pioneer, worked in the fields, learned how to
shoot and clean a gun and march.
``To be prepared,'' he said, laughing.
For what?
Andrés laughed. ``I don't know.''
.Human rights and education in Cuba
Tick-Tock Man
2003-12-14 03:23:13 UTC
Permalink
That was Kastro`s wet dream,Unfortunatly for him humans being are more
resilient than that.
Post by ahlahan
The funny thing is that
There no education
Theres no work
and if the catch you with a "Fusil" they shoot you on sight.
Post by Tick-Tock Man
On page 56 of Cuba's first-grade reading textbook, students are taught
through a combination of words and drawings that the letter ``F'' stands
for
Post by Tick-Tock Man
Felito, a child's name, and fusil, a military rifle.
``Felito sharpens the mocha [a short machete],'' read the practice
sentences
Post by Tick-Tock Man
in ¡A Leer!. ``Beside it, he places the fusil.'' Just below the surface of
those simple words lies a deeper meaning, a Communist concept that
students
Post by Tick-Tock Man
in the Cuban educational system quickly learn, whether they choose to
embrace it or not: ``Estudio, Trabajo, Fusil.'' Study, Work, Rifle.
The phrase is not just the political motto for Cuba's Communist Youth
Union.
Post by Tick-Tock Man
It has also been the center of Cuban dictator Fidel Castro's hope for the
future of Communism on the island: the interlocking of education and
political indoctrination.
Last October, the government made it clear that ideological content in
schools is a top priority. In closing the government's second national
education workshop -- held in Santiago de Cuba -- Rolando Alfonso Borges,
head of the Ideological Department of the Cuban Communist Party's Central
``The front line of political-ideological work with children is school,
and
Post by Tick-Tock Man
the first soldiers are teachers and other education workers. We have to
put
Post by Tick-Tock Man
our hearts into political-ideological work, and it must be done in a
systematic way, where each section of the educational system has specific
responsibilities that it must account for and which the party must
control.''
This past school year, children were pulled out of school more than ever
to
Post by Tick-Tock Man
attend government-orchestrated rallies demanding the return of Elián
González. And according to Santiago Press, an independent press agency in
Cuba, the government has stepped up indoctrination efforts outside school.
It has created a junior version of neighborhood spy networks for children
ages 4 to 13. The agency reported in January that the first children's
``Vigilance, fundamental duty of the child.''
But despite the government's heightened efforts, parents and dissidents
say
Post by Tick-Tock Man
a combination of limited career and job opportunities and the bleak
reality
Post by Tick-Tock Man
of daily life under Communism have conspired to make it harder for
Castro
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to
Post by Tick-Tock Man
indoctrinate children.
``A lot of young people visit my home and they have many concerns, they
ask
Post by Tick-Tock Man
themselves why Cubans don't have the same rights as others do -- can't
go
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to
Post by Tick-Tock Man
college, can't rent a hotel room in their own city,'' said one Havana
parent, Lázara Brito. ``They say `I'm burning the midnight oil and for
what?
Post by Tick-Tock Man
I can make more money selling pizza from my house.' These kids are
different
Post by Tick-Tock Man
than those of past times.'' Political indoctrination is the part of the
Cuban educational system rarely mentioned alongside the praise that the
country receives for achieving near-universal literacy, for having one of
the best academic performances among Latin American countries according to
UNESCO, and for developing top-notch teachers.
BACK TO SCHOOL
Officials will start dossiers on students
As American students head back to school this month for another year of
math, science and grammar, children starting school in Cuba will learn
songs
Post by Tick-Tock Man
and poems about Castro and Cuban Revolution heroes such as Che Guevara
and
Post by ahlahan
Post by Tick-Tock Man
Celia Sánchez. Officials will start a dossier on each student, where not
only their grades, but their political and religious activities will be
recorded. The expediente acumulativo escolar, as the dossier is called,
will
Post by Tick-Tock Man
follow the student to his or her job, where bosses will keep similar tabs.
Elementary school students of both sexes will automatically become
Pioneros,
Post by Tick-Tock Man
or Pioneers, a kind of Communist version of the Boy Scouts with a heavy
military and watchdog bent. They'll perform neighborhood watches, in
which,
Post by Tick-Tock Man
generally accompanied by adults, they'll question passersby for
identification, and keep an eye on neighbors.
Middle and high-school students will start their school days by singing
anthems and reciting speeches about a figure of the Cuban Revolution, or
talk about a current or historical event -- from the Communist
perspective.
Post by Tick-Tock Man
Their teachers will start each class with 15 more minutes of similar
discussion, as required by law. Students will learn how to clean, assemble
and use weapons.
Students with college aspirations must join and remain active in the
Communist Youth Union. They must take part in numerous conferences,
marches,
Post by Tick-Tock Man
rallies and more military training. They must spend 45 days of their
summer
Post by Tick-Tock Man
at a country school, working in fields during the morning and attending
classes in the afternoon.
``They say education in Cuba is free, but we have it on very hard terms,''
Brito said. ``Education in Cuba has a political foundation. It doesn't
make
Post by Tick-Tock Man
students think. It teaches them that the Cuban way is the right way and
everything outside it is wrong.''
Meanwhile, say detractors, teachers are leaving the profession in droves
for
Post by Tick-Tock Man
better-paying work in the tourist sector and the government is hastily
filling vacancies with graduate education students.
``The goal of this system is to create false nationalism -- something that
has hurt our youth tremendously,'' said Roberto De Miranda, president of
El
Post by Tick-Tock Man
Colegio de Pedagogos Independientes (the Independent Teachers'
Association)
Post by Tick-Tock Man
in Havana. ``It is a grotesque invention, a lie that has been perpetrated
for 40 years.''
And it's all for naught, he said.
``There isn't one young person on the island who believes in
Communism,''
Post by ahlahan
he
Post by Tick-Tock Man
said. ``Our youth is more rebellious by the day and less [academically]
prepared. They reject the system because there is too much manipulation.
We
Post by Tick-Tock Man
are fooling ourselves if we think otherwise.''
When Castro took over in 1959, he considered education a key tool for his
dream of creating a New Society, where a New Man would be molded to be
devoted to the causes of revolution and Communism.
He declared 1961 ``the year of education.'' Education was nationalized,
private schools were ordered closed, and a sweeping literacy campaign was
started, designed to indoctrinate the country's illiterate population --
then estimated at 24 percent -- while teaching people to read.
The regime's first minister of education visited Russia, and brought back
ideas on blending education, physical labor and political ideology.
Old textbooks were replaced with ideologically correct new ones.
Literature
Post by Tick-Tock Man
contrary to Communism was banned, and in its place, students began to
read,
Post by Tick-Tock Man
analyze and write about Castro's lengthy speeches.
``The concept is to use education as an instrument to create a new man,
whose god is revolution,'' said Luis Zúñiga, director of the human rights
division of the Cuban American National Foundation, author of a booklet on
the Cuban education system titled The Children of Fidel Castro. In 1978,
the
Post by Tick-Tock Man
government passed the 116-article Code of the Child, which includes
statements on the importance of the Marxist-Leninist formation of children
and on the need for the state to protect children ``against all influences
contrary to their communist formation.''
To many parents, that simply means that the government takes away patria
potestad -- parents' right to choose for their children.
This is one of the fundamental lessons Lázara Brito says her 9-year-old
son,
Post by Tick-Tock Man
Isaac Cohen, is learning in his Havana elementary: ``Two sets of
morality.''
Post by Tick-Tock Man
Every day, she says, when Isaac's teacher asks him a politically loaded
question, he gives her the expected answer, while harboring in his heart
the
Post by Tick-Tock Man
very different values that Bri o has taught him at home.
``He tells me `Mommy, I tell her what she wants to hear,''' Brito said.
Brito, wife of Miami resident José Cohen, and their three children --
Isaac,
Post by Tick-Tock Man
Yamila, 13, and Yanelis, 16 -- were put in the spotlight during the Elián
González case because they have been denied permission to join Cohen
despite
Post by Tick-Tock Man
having visas since 1996. The children have been harassed in school because
of the family's decision to leave. Although he is only 9, Isaac, who will
start fourth grade Sept. 1, is an old hand at duplicity by necessity,
Brito
Post by Tick-Tock Man
said. The boy has gotten one type of education at school, and another
one
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at
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home, since he entered state-run pre-school, where children are fed
indoctrination, sometimes literally, as candy.
In one pre-school and kindergarten lesson all Cuban families are familiar
with, the teacher asks students whether they believe God exists. Children
who respond `yes' are asked to close their eyes and ask God for a piece of
candy. When they open their eyes and their hands are empty, the teacher
asks
Post by Tick-Tock Man
them to close their eyes again. This time, the teacher says, ask Fidel for
the candy.
When they do, the teacher places a piece of candy in each of their hands.
``See,'' the teacher will say, ``there is no God. There is only Fidel.''
Another example from ¡A Leer! (``Let's Read''), the first-grade reading
book, introduces children to a pillar of Cuban education --
anti-Americanism -- through a poem titled Girón, after the embattled beach
in 1961's Bay of Pigs Invasion: April is a very pretty month.
"In April, the flowers bloom.
And April is the month of Girón. One time, in April, the Yankees attacked
us. They sent a lot of bad people.
They wanted to destroy the free Cuba. The people defeated them. Fidel led
the fight."
And these days, Brito said, math word problems are about Cuba's symbolic
lawsuit against the United States. In May, Cuba's government demanded that
the United States pay $121 billion in damages for causing economic harm to
the island through the U.S. trade embargo. Washington has never
commented
Post by ahlahan
on
Post by Tick-Tock Man
the lawsuit.
At the end of the last school year, Isaac brought home a survey that Brito
No. 10: Put the following activities in order, according to your tastes.
Among the choices: pionero campouts, neighborhood watch, neighborhood
clean-up, marches, watching television, attending church, and going to a
disco.
No. 14: Before the Revolution, your school building used to belong to
people
Post by Tick-Tock Man
who now live in the United States. Now, through the Helms-Burton Law, they
are reclaiming it from over there. What is your opinion about this
situation?
Because indoctrination in schools starts early, parents start
``deprogramming'' children early as well, said Jesús Yanes Pelletier, a
Havana parent and dissident. Yanes has a daughter, 14, and a son, 11, both
in middle school.
``After school, I sit them down and I tell them, `Everything that they
taught you today is a lie,' '' Yanes said. ``It's difficult for parents to
make the time to do it, but we have to.''
MIDDLE SCHOOL
`Country school' often means cheap labor, shabby conditions
But as his daughter Jenny grows up, Yanes says he's had more than skewed
course work to worry about. He dreads her having to attend a so-called
``country school.''
For 45 days, middle and high school students are sent to
school/work-camps
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in the countryside, where they toil in the fields for half the day, then
attend classes. Other students attend country boarding schools, where
children work and study the entire school year, and can only go home on a
weekend pass.
The idea behind the country schools is to allow the student to develop a
sense of community and teamwork while learning about the country's
crops.
Post by ahlahan
In
Post by Tick-Tock Man
reality, say parents and teachers, it translates into cheap labor in often
shabby conditions -- and an opportunity for children to grow up too fast.
Promiscuity, pregnancies, thefts, smoking and escapes to nearby towns are
common occurrences, said Emilia Ruvira, a former drawing teacher in a
Havana
Post by Tick-Tock Man
technical high school, now living in Miami.
Ruvira helped supervise a country school as part of her duties.
``The school was a wooden house, like a shed, that had bare cement floors,
outhouses and horrible food,'' she remembered. ``There were six teachers
and
Post by Tick-Tock Man
some staff there -- 10 people in all to supervise 300 kids. At 15, you
want
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to discover a lot of things. Almost everybody had sexual relations. And
with
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contraceptives being over the counter, it was easy.''
That scenario is what Yanes fears her daughter would inevitably be
caught
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up
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in.
``My daughter has not and never will she go to la escuela al campo,''
Yanes
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said. ``The kids do what they want. Sometimes girls and boys sleep in the
same room, divided by a sheet. Thousands of girls have gotten
pregnant --
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by
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teachers themselves.''
This year, a doctor's note managed to keep Jenny from country school. Next
year, Yanes said, he's going to have to get creative.
Andrés, a photographer who sells his work at the artist market alongside
the
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Malecón in Vedado, said he has started worrying about it early: His son is
nine months old. When he reaches high school, Andrés and his wife Ana say,
they'll find a doctor to say their boy has a spinal cord problem. ``These
are the tricks we do,'' Andrés said. At 17, Marcos De Miranda, one year
away
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from graduating college, was thrown out of his Havana high school. The
``They wanted him to say, in front of all his classmates, that his father
was anti-social,'' said Roberto De Miranda, Marcos' father.
When Marcos, now 21, refused, the elder De Miranda said, ``his grades were
lowered and he was thrown out.''
It was a matter of principle, said Roberto De Miranda, but it was a costly
and bitter consequence -- one that is hard to make his other children, who
have suffered harassment at school, understand.
``My kids tell me, `Dad, we can't study, and it's your fault that we are
languishing,' '' Roberto De Miranda said. ``Then I have to talk to them
about dignity, decorum and principle.'' While he admires his son for
standing up to his beliefs, the elder De Miranda can't help lamenting his
and others' futures being cut short.
``How many kids, how many doctors and engineers have we lost because
although their grades were good, they just didn't fit in politically?''
Certainly, Yanelis Cohen Brito is one.
The 16-year-old last saw the inside of a classroom a year ago, when she
passed ninth grade. It was a bittersweet time -- she'd earned excellent
notes, said her mother, but she was told she couldn't enroll in high
school
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because her family was planning to leave the country.
Now she sits at home all day, frustrated.
When Yanelis was expelled, school officials called her friends' parents,
telling them they shouldn't let their children associate with Yanelis.
Despite that, children have taken to gathering at the girl's home after
school.
``I hear their conversations and they are full of frustration and
anxiety,''
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Brito said. But most important, she said, ``they have started to think.''
``My generation was much more successfully indoctrinated,'' said Brito,
40.
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``They more than any other generation see the difference between what
they're being taught and real life.''
Andrés, the photographer, shows a picture he took of a young Cuban boy
in
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a
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school uniform and Pioneer scarf. Next to the student is an ad picturing a
smiling delivery man holding a package. There is irony in the
juxtaposition,
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Andrés said. The boy is waiting for something, too -- his package, his
future, much as Andrés himself did, years ago. He said he had the typical
Cuban childhood: he was a Pioneer, worked in the fields, learned how to
shoot and clean a gun and march.
``To be prepared,'' he said, laughing.
For what?
Andrés laughed. ``I don't know.''
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Post by ahlahan
The funny thing is that
There no education
Theres no work
and if the catch you with a "Fusil" they shoot you on sight.
Post by Tick-Tock Man
On page 56 of Cuba's first-grade reading textbook, students are taught
through a combination of words and drawings that the letter ``F'' stands
for
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Felito, a child's name, and fusil, a military rifle.
``Felito sharpens the mocha [a short machete],'' read the practice
sentences
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in ¡A Leer!. ``Beside it, he places the fusil.'' Just below the surface of
those simple words lies a deeper meaning, a Communist concept that
students
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in the Cuban educational system quickly learn, whether they choose to
embrace it or not: ``Estudio, Trabajo, Fusil.'' Study, Work, Rifle.
The phrase is not just the political motto for Cuba's Communist Youth
Union.
Post by Tick-Tock Man
It has also been the center of Cuban dictator Fidel Castro's hope for the
future of Communism on the island: the interlocking of education and
political indoctrination.
Last October, the government made it clear that ideological content in
schools is a top priority. In closing the government's second national
education workshop -- held in Santiago de Cuba -- Rolando Alfonso Borges,
head of the Ideological Department of the Cuban Communist Party's Central
``The front line of political-ideological work with children is school,
and
Post by Tick-Tock Man
the first soldiers are teachers and other education workers. We have to
put
Post by Tick-Tock Man
our hearts into political-ideological work, and it must be done in a
systematic way, where each section of the educational system has specific
responsibilities that it must account for and which the party must
control.''
This past school year, children were pulled out of school more than ever
to
Post by Tick-Tock Man
attend government-orchestrated rallies demanding the return of Elián
González. And according to Santiago Press, an independent press agency in
Cuba, the government has stepped up indoctrination efforts outside school.
It has created a junior version of neighborhood spy networks for children
ages 4 to 13. The agency reported in January that the first children's
``Vigilance, fundamental duty of the child.''
But despite the government's heightened efforts, parents and dissidents
say
Post by Tick-Tock Man
a combination of limited career and job opportunities and the bleak
reality
Post by Tick-Tock Man
of daily life under Communism have conspired to make it harder for
Castro
Post by ahlahan
to
Post by Tick-Tock Man
indoctrinate children.
``A lot of young people visit my home and they have many concerns, they
ask
Post by Tick-Tock Man
themselves why Cubans don't have the same rights as others do -- can't
go
Post by ahlahan
to
Post by Tick-Tock Man
college, can't rent a hotel room in their own city,'' said one Havana
parent, Lázara Brito. ``They say `I'm burning the midnight oil and for
what?
Post by Tick-Tock Man
I can make more money selling pizza from my house.' These kids are
different
Post by Tick-Tock Man
than those of past times.'' Political indoctrination is the part of the
Cuban educational system rarely mentioned alongside the praise that the
country receives for achieving near-universal literacy, for having one of
the best academic performances among Latin American countries according to
UNESCO, and for developing top-notch teachers.
BACK TO SCHOOL
Officials will start dossiers on students
As American students head back to school this month for another year of
math, science and grammar, children starting school in Cuba will learn
songs
Post by Tick-Tock Man
and poems about Castro and Cuban Revolution heroes such as Che Guevara
and
Post by ahlahan
Post by Tick-Tock Man
Celia Sánchez. Officials will start a dossier on each student, where not
only their grades, but their political and religious activities will be
recorded. The expediente acumulativo escolar, as the dossier is called,
will
Post by Tick-Tock Man
follow the student to his or her job, where bosses will keep similar tabs.
Elementary school students of both sexes will automatically become
Pioneros,
Post by Tick-Tock Man
or Pioneers, a kind of Communist version of the Boy Scouts with a heavy
military and watchdog bent. They'll perform neighborhood watches, in
which,
Post by Tick-Tock Man
generally accompanied by adults, they'll question passersby for
identification, and keep an eye on neighbors.
Middle and high-school students will start their school days by singing
anthems and reciting speeches about a figure of the Cuban Revolution, or
talk about a current or historical event -- from the Communist
perspective.
Post by Tick-Tock Man
Their teachers will start each class with 15 more minutes of similar
discussion, as required by law. Students will learn how to clean, assemble
and use weapons.
Students with college aspirations must join and remain active in the
Communist Youth Union. They must take part in numerous conferences,
marches,
Post by Tick-Tock Man
rallies and more military training. They must spend 45 days of their
summer
Post by Tick-Tock Man
at a country school, working in fields during the morning and attending
classes in the afternoon.
``They say education in Cuba is free, but we have it on very hard terms,''
Brito said. ``Education in Cuba has a political foundation. It doesn't
make
Post by Tick-Tock Man
students think. It teaches them that the Cuban way is the right way and
everything outside it is wrong.''
Meanwhile, say detractors, teachers are leaving the profession in droves
for
Post by Tick-Tock Man
better-paying work in the tourist sector and the government is hastily
filling vacancies with graduate education students.
``The goal of this system is to create false nationalism -- something that
has hurt our youth tremendously,'' said Roberto De Miranda, president of
El
Post by Tick-Tock Man
Colegio de Pedagogos Independientes (the Independent Teachers'
Association)
Post by Tick-Tock Man
in Havana. ``It is a grotesque invention, a lie that has been perpetrated
for 40 years.''
And it's all for naught, he said.
``There isn't one young person on the island who believes in
Communism,''
Post by ahlahan
he
Post by Tick-Tock Man
said. ``Our youth is more rebellious by the day and less [academically]
prepared. They reject the system because there is too much manipulation.
We
Post by Tick-Tock Man
are fooling ourselves if we think otherwise.''
When Castro took over in 1959, he considered education a key tool for his
dream of creating a New Society, where a New Man would be molded to be
devoted to the causes of revolution and Communism.
He declared 1961 ``the year of education.'' Education was nationalized,
private schools were ordered closed, and a sweeping literacy campaign was
started, designed to indoctrinate the country's illiterate population --
then estimated at 24 percent -- while teaching people to read.
The regime's first minister of education visited Russia, and brought back
ideas on blending education, physical labor and political ideology.
Old textbooks were replaced with ideologically correct new ones.
Literature
Post by Tick-Tock Man
contrary to Communism was banned, and in its place, students began to
read,
Post by Tick-Tock Man
analyze and write about Castro's lengthy speeches.
``The concept is to use education as an instrument to create a new man,
whose god is revolution,'' said Luis Zúñiga, director of the human rights
division of the Cuban American National Foundation, author of a booklet on
the Cuban education system titled The Children of Fidel Castro. In 1978,
the
Post by Tick-Tock Man
government passed the 116-article Code of the Child, which includes
statements on the importance of the Marxist-Leninist formation of childr
en
Post by ahlahan
Post by Tick-Tock Man
and on the need for the state to protect children ``against all influences
contrary to their communist formation.''
To many parents, that simply means that the government takes away patria
potestad -- parents' right to choose for their children.
This is one of the fundamental lessons Lázara Brito says her 9-year-old
son,
Post by Tick-Tock Man
Isaac Cohen, is learning in his Havana elementary: ``Two sets of
morality.''
Post by Tick-Tock Man
Every day, she says, when Isaac's teacher asks him a politically loaded
question, he gives her the expected answer, while harboring in his heart
the
Post by Tick-Tock Man
very di ferent values that Brito has taught him at home.
``He tells me `Mommy, I tell her what she wants to hear,''' Brito said.
Brito, wife of Miami resident José Cohen, and their three children --
Isaac,
Post by Tick-Tock Man
Yamila, 13, and Yanelis, 16 -- were put in the spotlight during the Elián
González case because they have been denied permission to join Cohen
despite
Post by Tick-Tock Man
having visas since 1996. The children have been harassed in school because
of the family's decision to leave. Although he is only 9, Isaac, who will
start fourth grade Sept. 1, is an old hand at duplicity by necessity,
Brito
Post by Tick-Tock Man
said. The boy has gotten one type of education at school, and another
one
Post by ahlahan
at
Post by Tick-Tock Man
home, since he entered state-run pre-school, where children are fed
indoctrination, sometimes literally, as candy.
In one pre-school and kindergarten lesson all Cuban families are familiar
with, the teacher asks students whether they believe God exists. Children
who respond `yes' are asked to close their eyes and ask God for a piece of
candy. When they open their eyes and their hands are empty, the teacher
asks
Post by Tick-Tock Man
them to close their eyes again. This time, the teacher says, ask Fidel for
the candy.
When they do, the teacher places a piece of candy in each of their hands.
``See,'' the teacher will say, ``there is no God. There is only Fidel.''
Another example from ¡A Leer! (``Let's Read''), the first-grade reading
book, introduces children to a pillar of Cuban education --
anti-Americanism -- through a poem titled Girón, after the embattled beach
in 1961's Bay of Pigs Invasion: April is a very pretty month.
"In April, the flowers bloom.
And April is the month of Girón. One time, in April, the Yankees attacked
us. They sent a lot of bad people.
They wanted to destroy the free Cuba. The people defeated them. Fidel led
the fight."
And these days, Brito said, math word problems are about Cuba's symbolic
lawsuit against the United States. In May, Cuba's government demanded that
the United States pay $121 billion in damages for causing economic harm to
the island through the U.S. trade embargo. Washington has never
commented
Post by ahlahan
on
Post by Tick-Tock Man
the lawsuit.
At the end of the last school year, Isaac brought home a survey that Brito
No. 10: Put the following activities in order, according to your tastes.
Among the choices: pionero campouts, neighborhood watch, neighborhood
clean-up, marches, watching television, attending church, and going to a
disco.
No. 14: Before the Revolution, your school building used to belong to
people
Post by Tick-Tock Man
who now live in the United States. Now, through the Helms-Burton Law, they
are reclaiming it from over there. What is your opinion about this
situation?
Because indoctrination in schools starts early, parents start
``deprogramming'' children early as well, said Jesús Yanes Pelletier, a
Havana parent and dissident. Yanes has a daughter, 14, and a son, 11, both
in middle school.
``After school, I sit them down and I tell them, `Everything that they
taught you today is a lie,' '' Yanes said. ``It's difficult for parents to
make the time to do it, but we have to.''
MIDDLE SCHOOL
`Country school' often means cheap labor, shabby conditions
But as his daughter Jenny grows up, Yanes says he's had more than skewed
course work to worry about. He dreads her having to attend a so-called
``country school.''
For 45 days, middle and high school students are sent to
school/work-camps
Post by ahlahan
Post by Tick-Tock Man
in the countryside, where they toil in the fields for half the day, then
attend classes. Other students attend country boarding schools, where
children work and study the entire school year, and can only go home on a
weekend pass.
The idea behind the country schools is to allow the student to develop a
sense of community and teamwork while learning about the country's
crops.
Post by ahlahan
In
Post by Tick-Tock Man
reality, say parents and teachers, it translates into cheap labor in often
shabby conditions -- and an opportunity for children to grow up too fast.
Promiscuity, pregnancies, thefts, smoking and escapes to nearby towns are
common occurrences, said Emilia Ruvira, a former drawing teacher in a
Havana
Post by Tick-Tock Man
technical high school, now living in Miami.
Ruvira helped supervise a country school as part of her duties.
``The school was a wooden house, like a shed, that had bare cement floors,
outhouses and horrible food,'' she remembered. ``There were six teachers
and
Post by Tick-Tock Man
some staff there -- 10 people in all to supervise 300 kids. At 15, you
want
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to discover a lot of things. Almost everybody had sexual relations. And
with
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contraceptives being over the counter, it was easy.''
That scenario is what Yanes fears her daughter would inevitably be
caught
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up
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in.
``My daughter has not and never will she go to la escuela al campo,''
Yanes
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said. ``The kids do what they want. Sometimes girls and boys sleep in the
same room, divided by a sheet. Thousands of girls have gotten
pregnant --
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by
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teachers themselves.''
This year, a doctor's note managed to keep Jenny from country school. Next
year, Yanes said, he's going to have to get creative.
Andrés, a photographer who sells his work at the artist market alongside
the
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Malecón in Vedado, said he has started worrying about it early: His son is
nine months old. When he reaches high school, Andrés and his wife Ana say,
they'll find a doctor to say their boy has a spinal cord problem. ``These
are the tricks we do,'' Andrés said. At 17, Marcos De Miranda, one year
away
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from graduating college, was thrown out of his Havana high school. The
``They wanted him to say, in front of all his classmates, that his father
was anti-social,'' said Roberto De Miranda, Marcos' father.
When Marcos, now 21, refused, the elder De Miranda said, ``his grades were
lowered and he was thrown out.''
It was a matter of principle, said Roberto De Miranda, but it was a costly
and bitter consequence -- one that is hard to make his other children, who
have suffered harassment at school, understand.
``My kids tell me, `Dad, we can't study, and it's your fault that we are
languishing,' '' Roberto De Miranda said. ``Then I have to talk to them
about dignity, decorum and principle.'' While he admires his son for
standing up to his beliefs, the elder De Miranda can't help lamenting his
and others' futures being cut short.
``How many kids, how many doctors and engineers have we lost because
although their grades were good, they just didn't fit in politically?''
Certainly, Yanelis Cohen Brito is one.
The 16-year-old last saw the inside of a classroom a year ago, when she
passed ninth grade. It was a bittersweet time -- she'd earned excellent
notes, said her mother, but she was told she couldn't enroll in high
school
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because her family was planning to leave the country.
Now she sits at home all day, frustrated.
When Yanelis was expelled, school officials called her friends' parents,
telling them they shouldn't let their children associate with Yanelis.
Despite that, children have taken to gathering at the girl's home after
school.
``I hear their conversations and they are full of frustration and
anxiety,''
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Brito said. But most important, she said, ``they have started to think.''
``My generation was much more successfully indoctrinated,'' said Brito,
40.
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``They more than any other generation see the difference between what
they're being taught and real life.''
Andrés, the photographer, shows a picture he took of a young Cuban boy
in
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a
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school uniform and Pioneer scarf. Next to the student is an ad picturing a
smiling delivery man holding a package. There is irony in the
juxtaposition,
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Andrés said. The boy is waiting for something, too -- his package, his
future, much as Andrés himself did, years ago. He said he had the typical
Cuban childhood: he was a Pioneer, worked in the fields, learned how to
shoot and clean a gun and march.
``To be prepared,'' he said, laughing.
For what?
Andrés laughed. ``I don't know.''
.Human rights and education in Cuba
G Singh
2004-01-10 05:52:10 UTC
Permalink
The many problems with Cuba and its dictator are there for all to see.
However, the indoctrination through education is not a trait and priority
just to Cuba or communists. It is the top priority in "the Land of the
Free" as well. How else do you explain that Columbus "discovered" America
(overlooking the millions who were living here for millenia, also
overlooking other civilizations/peoples who had made contact prior to
Columbus), and that so-called Indians (Native Americans) simply died off
(not killed off), and that "we" are good and "they" are bad, we love freedom
and they hate our values and way of life, and "now is not the time to
criticize", it is time to come together to go kill the evildoers. Another
big one: we cannot allow others to have weapons of mass destruction (nuclear
weapons), but let us overlook the fact that we are the only country callous
and sadistic enough to not only use nuclear weapon on a defeated foe,
killing hundreds of thousands and destroying the lives of countless others,
but then make the preposterous and false claim that we had to do it to save
lives. And keep the masses deluded of the truth.

Indoctrination! Maybe one who wishes not to be indoctrinated and has the
guts to look within would resist the temptation to lay such holier-than-thou
criticism. Just the words communism, socialism are met with revulsion and
disturb the indoctrinated, but somehow "free" American mind. How do you
explain?

Humbly,
G Singh
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On page 56 of Cuba's first-grade reading textbook, students are taught
through a combination of words and drawings that the letter ``F'' stands for
Felito, a child's name, and fusil, a military rifle.
``Felito sharpens the mocha [a short machete],'' read the practice sentences
in ¡A Leer!. ``Beside it, he places the fusil.'' Just below the surface of
those simple words lies a deeper meaning, a Communist concept that students
in the Cuban educational system quickly learn, whether they choose to
embrace it or not: ``Estudio, Trabajo, Fusil.'' Study, Work, Rifle.
The phrase is not just the political motto for Cuba's Communist Youth Union.
It has also been the center of Cuban dictator Fidel Castro's hope for the
future of Communism on the island: the interlocking of education and
political indoctrination.
Last October, the government made it clear that ideological content in
schools is a top priority. In closing the government's second national
education workshop -- held in Santiago de Cuba -- Rolando Alfonso Borges,
head of the Ideological Department of the Cuban Communist Party's Central
``The front line of political-ideological work with children is school, and
the first soldiers are teachers and other education workers. We have to put
our hearts into political-ideological work, and it must be done in a
systematic way, where each section of the educational system has specific
responsibilities that it must account for and which the party must
control.''
This past school year, children were pulled out of school more than ever to
attend government-orchestrated rallies demanding the return of Elián
González. And according to Santiago Press, an independent press agency in
Cuba, the government has stepped up indoctrination efforts outside school.
It has created a junior version of neighborhood spy networks for children
ages 4 to 13. The agency reported in January that the first children's
``Vigilance, fundamental duty of the child.''
But despite the government's heightened efforts, parents and dissidents say
a combination of limited career and job opportunities and the bleak reality
of daily life under Communism have conspired to make it harder for Castro to
indoctrinate children.
``A lot of young people visit my home and they have many concerns, they
ask
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themselves why Cubans don't have the same rights as others do -- can't go to
college, can't rent a hotel room in their own city,'' said one Havana
parent, Lázara Brito. ``They say `I'm burning the midnight oil and for what?
I can make more money selling pizza from my house.' These kids are different
than those of past times.'' Political indoctrination is the part of the
Cuban educational system rarely mentioned alongside the praise that the
country receives for achieving near-universal literacy, for having one of
the best academic performances among Latin American countries according to
UNESCO, and for developing top-notch teachers.
BACK TO SCHOOL
Officials will start dossiers on students
As American students head back to school this month for another year of
math, science and grammar, children starting school in Cuba will learn songs
and poems about Castro and Cuban Revolution heroes such as Che Guevara and
Celia Sánchez. Officials will start a dossier on each student, where not
only their grades, but their political and religious activities will be
recorded. The expediente acumulativo escolar, as the dossier is called, will
follow the student to his or her job, where bosses will keep similar tabs.
Elementary school students of both sexes will automatically become Pioneros,
or Pioneers, a kind of Communist version of the Boy Scouts with a heavy
military and watchdog bent. They'll perform neighborhood watches, in which,
generally accompanied by adults, they'll question passersby for
identification, and keep an eye on neighbors.
Middle and high-school students will start their school days by singing
anthems and reciting speeches about a figure of the Cuban Revolution, or
talk about a current or historical event -- from the Communist
perspective.
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Their teachers will start each class with 15 more minutes of similar
discussion, as required by law. Students will learn how to clean, assemble
and use weapons.
Students with college aspirations must join and remain active in the
Communist Youth Union. They must take part in numerous conferences, marches,
rallies and more military training. They must spend 45 days of their summer
at a country school, working in fields during the morning and attending
classes in the afternoon.
``They say education in Cuba is free, but we have it on very hard terms,''
Brito said. ``Education in Cuba has a political foundation. It doesn't make
students think. It teaches them that the Cuban way is the right way and
everything outside it is wrong.''
Meanwhile, say detractors, teachers are leaving the profession in droves for
better-paying work in the tourist sector and the government is hastily
filling vacancies with graduate education students.
``The goal of this system is to create false nationalism -- something that
has hurt our youth tremendously,'' said Roberto De Miranda, president of El
Colegio de Pedagogos Independientes (the Independent Teachers'
Association)
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in Havana. ``It is a grotesque invention, a lie that has been perpetrated
for 40 years.''
And it's all for naught, he said.
``There isn't one young person on the island who believes in Communism,'' he
said. ``Our youth is more rebellious by the day and less [academically]
prepared. They reject the system because there is too much manipulation. We
are fooling ourselves if we think otherwise.''
When Castro took over in 1959, he considered education a key tool for his
dream of creating a New Society, where a New Man would be molded to be
devoted to the causes of revolution and Communism.
He declared 1961 ``the year of education.'' Education was nationalized,
private schools were ordered closed, and a sweeping literacy campaign was
started, designed to indoctrinate the country's illiterate population --
then estimated at 24 percent -- while teaching people to read.
The regime's first minister of education visited Russia, and brought back
ideas on blending education, physical labor and political ideology.
Old textbooks were replaced with ideologically correct new ones. Literature
contrary to Communism was banned, and in its place, students began to read,
analyze and write about Castro's lengthy speeches.
``The concept is to use education as an instrument to create a new man,
whose god is revolution,'' said Luis Zúñiga, director of the human rights
division of the Cuban American National Foundation, author of a booklet on
the Cuban education system titled The Children of Fidel Castro. In 1978, the
government passed the 116-article Code of the Child, which includes
statements on the importance of the Marxist-Leninist formation of children
and on the eed for the state to protect children ``against all influences
contrary to their communist formation.''
To many parents, that simply means that the government takes away patria
potestad -- parents' right to choose for their children.
This is one of the fundamental lessons Lázara Brito says her 9-year-old son,
Isaac Cohen, is learning in his Havana elementary: ``Two sets of morality.''
Every day, she says, when Isaac's teacher asks him a politically loaded
question, he gives her the expected answer, while harboring in his heart the
very different values that Brito has taught him at home.
``He tells me `Mommy, I tell her what she wants to hear,''' Brito said.
Brito, wife of Miami resident José Cohen, and their three children -- Isaac,
Yamila, 13, and Yanelis, 16 -- were put in the spotlight during the Elián
González case because they have been denied permission to join Cohen despite
having visas since 1996. The children have been harassed in school because
of the family's decision to leave. Although he is only 9, Isaac, who will
start fourth grade Sept. 1, is an old hand at duplicity by necessity, Brito
said. The boy has gotten one type of education at school, and another one at
home, since he entered state-run pre-school, where children are fed
indoctrination, sometimes literally, as candy.
In one pre-school and kindergarten lesson all Cuban families are familiar
with, the teacher asks students whether they believe God exists. Children
who respond `yes' are asked to close their eyes and ask God for a piece of
candy. When they open their eyes and their hands are empty, the teacher asks
them to close their eyes again. This time, the teacher says, ask Fidel for
the candy.
When they do, the teacher places a piece of candy in each of their hands.
``See,'' the teacher will say, ``there is no God. There is only Fidel.''
Another example from ¡A Leer! (``Let's Read''), the first-grade reading
book, introduces children to a pillar of Cuban education --
anti-Americanism -- through a poem titled Girón, after the embattled beach
in 1961's Bay of Pigs Invasion: April is a very pretty month.
"In April, the flowers bloom.
And April is the month of Girón. One time, in April, the Yankees attacked
us. They sent a lot of bad people.
They wanted to destroy the free Cuba. The people defeated them. Fidel led
the fight."
And these days, Brito said, math word problems are about Cuba's symbolic
lawsuit against the United States. In May, Cuba's government demanded that
the United States pay $121 billion in damages for causing economic harm to
the island through the U.S. trade embargo. Washington has never commented on
the lawsuit.
At the end of the last school year, Isaac brought home a survey that Brito
No. 10: Put the following activities in order, according to your tastes.
Among the choices: pionero campouts, neighborhood watch, neighborhood
clean-up, marches, watching television, attending church, and going to a
disco.
No. 14: Before the Revolution, your school building used to belong to people
who now live in the United States. Now, through the Helms-Burton Law, they
are reclaiming it from over there. What is your opinion about this
situation?
Because indoctrination in schools starts early, parents start
``deprogramming'' children early as well, said Jesús Yanes Pelletier, a
Havana parent and dissident. Yanes has a daughter, 14, and a son, 11, both
in middle school.
``After school, I sit them down and I tell them, `Everything that they
taught you today is a lie,' '' Yanes said. ``It's difficult for parents to
make the time to do it, but we have to.''
MIDDLE SCHOOL
`Country school' often means cheap labor, shabby conditions
But as his daughter Jenny grows up, Yanes says he's had more than skewed
course work to worry about. He dreads her having to attend a so-called
``country school.''
For 45 days, middle and high school students are sent to school/work-camps
in the countryside, where they toil in the fields for half the day, then
attend classes. Other students attend country boarding schools, where
children work and study the entire school year, and can only go home on a
weekend pass.
The idea behind the country schools is to allow the student to develop a
sense of community and teamwork while learning about the country's crops. In
reality, say parents and teachers, it translates into cheap labor in often
shabby conditions -- and an opportunity for children to grow up too fast.
Promiscuity, pregnancies, thefts, smoking and escapes to nearby towns are
common occurrences, said Emilia Ruvira, a former drawing teacher in a Havana
technical high school, now living in Miami.
Ruvira helped supervise a country school as part of her duties.
``The school was a wooden house, like a shed, that had bare cement floors,
outhouses and horrible food,'' she remembered. ``There were six teachers and
some staff there -- 10 people in all to supervise 300 kids. At 15, you want
to discover a lot of things. Almost everybody had sexual relations. And with
contraceptives being over the counter, it was easy.''
That scenario is what Yanes fears her daughter would inevitably be caught up
in.
``My daughter has not and never will she go to la escuela al campo,'' Yanes
said. ``The kids do what they want. Sometimes girls and boys sleep in the
same room, divided by a sheet. Thousands of girls have gotten pregnant -- by
teachers themselves.''
This year, a doctor's note managed to keep Jenny from country school. Next
year, Yanes said, he's going to have to get creative.
Andrés, a photographer who sells his work at the artist market alongside the
Malecón in Vedado, said he has started worrying about it early: His son is
nine months old. When he reaches high school, Andrés and his wife Ana say,
they'll find a doctor to say their boy has a spinal cord problem. ``These
are the tricks we do,'' Andrés said. At 17, Marcos De Miranda, one year away
from graduating college, was thrown out of his Havana high school. The
``They wanted him to say, in front of all his classmates, that his father
was anti-social,'' said Roberto De Miranda, Marcos' father.
When Marcos, now 21, refused, the elder De Miranda said, ``his grades were
lowered and he was thrown out.''
It was a matter of principle, said Roberto De Miranda, but it was a costly
and bitter consequence -- one that is hard to make his other children, who
have suffered harassment at school, understand.
``My kids tell me, `Dad, we can't study, and it's your fault that we are
languishing,' '' Roberto De Miranda said. ``Then I have to talk to them
about dignity, decorum and principle.'' While he admires his son for
standing up to his beliefs, the elder De Miranda can't help lamenting his
and others' futures being cut short.
``How many kids, how many doctors and engineers have we lost because
although their grades were good, they just didn't fit in politically?''
Certainly, Yanelis Cohen Brito is one.
The 16-year-old last saw the inside of a classroom a year ago, when she
passed ninth grade. It was a bittersweet time -- she'd earned excellent
notes, said her mother, but she was told she couldn't enroll in high school
because her family was planning to leave the country.
Now she sits at home all day, frustrated.
When Yanelis was expelled, school officials called her friends' parents,
telling them they shouldn't let their children associate with Yanelis.
Despite that, children have taken to gathering at the girl's home after
school.
``I hear their conversations and they are full of frustration and anxiety,''
Brito said. But most important, she said, ``they have started to think.''
``My generation was much more successfully indoctrinated,'' said Brito, 40.
``They more than any other generation see the difference between what
they're being taught and real life.''
Andrés, the photographer, shows a picture he took of a young Cuban boy in a
school uniform and Pioneer scarf. Next to the student is an ad picturing a
smiling delivery man holding a package. There is irony in the
juxtaposition,
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Andrés said. The boy is waiting for something, too -- his package, his
future, much as Andrés himself did, years ago. He said he had the typical
Cuban childhood: he was a Pioneer, worked in the fields, learned how to
shoot and clean a gun and march.
``To be prepared,'' he said, laughing.
For what?
Andrés laughed. ``I don't know.''
.Human rights and education in Cuba
malanga
2004-01-10 15:09:23 UTC
Permalink
Post by G Singh
The many problems with Cuba and its dictator are there for all to see.
However, the indoctrination through education is not a trait and priority
just to Cuba or communists. It is the top priority in "the Land of the
Free" as well. How else do you explain that Columbus "discovered" America
(overlooking the millions who were living here for millenia, also
overlooking other civilizations/peoples who had made contact prior to
Columbus), and that so-called Indians (Native Americans) simply died off
(not killed off),
I can explain it by conjecturing that you haven't attended a history class
in the United States for...oh...about the last 30 years.
G Singh
2004-01-10 19:49:30 UTC
Permalink
Your conjecturing is erroneous. For the sake of saving us discussion that
gets personal and skirts the issue raised, I shall offer something for you
to research yourself. James W. Loewen wrote a book called "Lies My Teacher
Told Me: Everything Your American History Textbook Got Wrong", which was
published in 1996 (Touchstone) and covers 12 US high school textbooks. I
urge you to read Loewen's book and also reasearch the textbooks he covers.
Maybe you will then be ready to address the issue of indoctrination and get
past your "conjecturing".
Post by malanga
Post by G Singh
The many problems with Cuba and its dictator are there for all to see.
However, the indoctrination through education is not a trait and priority
just to Cuba or communists. It is the top priority in "the Land of the
Free" as well. How else do you explain that Columbus "discovered" America
(overlooking the millions who were living here for millenia, also
overlooking other civilizations/peoples who had made contact prior to
Columbus), and that so-called Indians (Native Americans) simply died off
(not killed off),
I can explain it by conjecturing that you haven't attended a history class
in the United States for...oh...about the last 30 years.
Tick-Tock Man
2004-01-10 22:07:03 UTC
Permalink
I agree with you that there`s is indoctrination in the US now,the left is in
charge of it, their goal.is the
trashing of America ,God and everything is decent.
Post by G Singh
Your conjecturing is erroneous. For the sake of saving us discussion that
gets personal and skirts the issue raised, I shall offer something for you
to research yourself. James W. Loewen wrote a book called "Lies My Teacher
Told Me: Everything Your American History Textbook Got Wrong", which was
published in 1996 (Touchstone) and covers 12 US high school textbooks. I
urge you to read Loewen's book and also reasearch the textbooks he covers.
Maybe you will then be ready to address the issue of indoctrination and get
past your "conjecturing".
Post by malanga
Post by G Singh
The many problems with Cuba and its dictator are there for all to see.
However, the indoctrination through education is not a trait and
priority
Post by malanga
Post by G Singh
just to Cuba or communists. It is the top priority in "the Land of the
Free" as well. How else do you explain that Columbus "discovered"
America
Post by malanga
Post by G Singh
(overlooking the millions who were living here for millenia, also
overlooking other civilizations/peoples who had made contact prior to
Columbus), and that so-called Indians (Native Americans) simply died off
(not killed off),
I can explain it by conjecturing that you haven't attended a history class
in the United States for...oh...about the last 30 years.
G Singh
2004-01-11 04:55:21 UTC
Permalink
I would enjoy this exchange if your opinions had at least some basis in
reality. If you cannot even understand the basic concept of what I am
saying, perhaps it would be better for you not to respond.

What certain people call "revision" of history and really mean it
derisively, is really an attempt to describe things as they were from more
than one perspective. It is an attempt to get closer to the truth. Is
truth something you find worth working towards?
How about justice and accountability?

If you disagree with these then I strongly urge you to begin serious
introspection of your own humanity. And stop worrying so much about the
left or the right. Start worrying more about what is Right. Thank you.
Post by Tick-Tock Man
I agree with you that there`s is indoctrination in the US now,the left is in
charge of it, their goal.is the
trashing of America ,God and everything is decent.
Post by G Singh
Your conjecturing is erroneous. For the sake of saving us discussion that
gets personal and skirts the issue raised, I shall offer something for you
to research yourself. James W. Loewen wrote a book called "Lies My
Teacher
Post by G Singh
Told Me: Everything Your American History Textbook Got Wrong", which was
published in 1996 (Touchstone) and covers 12 US high school textbooks.
I
Post by Tick-Tock Man
Post by G Singh
urge you to read Loewen's book and also reasearch the textbooks he covers.
Maybe you will then be ready to address the issue of indoctrination and
get
Post by G Singh
past your "conjecturing".
Post by malanga
Post by G Singh
The many problems with Cuba and its dictator are there for all to see.
However, the indoctrination through education is not a trait and
priority
Post by malanga
Post by G Singh
just to Cuba or communists. It is the top priority in "the Land of
the
Post by G Singh
Post by malanga
Post by G Singh
Free" as well. How else do you explain that Columbus "discovered"
America
Post by malanga
Post by G Singh
(overlooking the millions who were living here for millenia, also
overlooking other civilizations/peoples who had made contact prior to
Columbus), and that so-called Indians (Native Americans) simply died
off
Post by G Singh
Post by malanga
Post by G Singh
(not killed off),
I can explain it by conjecturing that you haven't attended a history
class
Post by G Singh
Post by malanga
in the United States for...oh...about the last 30 years.
Tick-Tock Man
2004-01-11 05:22:17 UTC
Permalink
I can tell you are part of the so called "progresist" left who hates the
west and continually attack it`s civilization and find fault in
everything,forgeting the atrocities being commited everywhere else and not
even try to offer a solution,so good luck with your hate of your betters.
Post by G Singh
I would enjoy this exchange if your opinions had at least some basis in
reality. If you cannot even understand the basic concept of what I am
saying, perhaps it would be better for you not to respond.
What certain people call "revision" of history and really mean it
derisively, is really an attempt to describe things as they were from more
than one perspective. It is an attempt to get closer to the truth. Is
truth something you find worth working towards?
How about justice and accountability?
If you disagree with these then I strongly urge you to begin serious
introspection of your own humanity. And stop worrying so much about the
left or the right. Start worrying more about what is Right. Thank you.
Post by Tick-Tock Man
I agree with you that there`s is indoctrination in the US now,the left
is
Post by G Singh
in
Post by Tick-Tock Man
charge of it, their goal.is the
trashing of America ,God and everything is decent.
Post by G Singh
Your conjecturing is erroneous. For the sake of saving us discussion
that
Post by Tick-Tock Man
Post by G Singh
gets personal and skirts the issue raised, I shall offer something for
you
Post by Tick-Tock Man
Post by G Singh
to research yourself. James W. Loewen wrote a book called "Lies My
Teacher
Post by G Singh
Told Me: Everything Your American History Textbook Got Wrong", which was
published in 1996 (Touchstone) and covers 12 US high school textbooks.
I
Post by Tick-Tock Man
Post by G Singh
urge you to read Loewen's book and also reasearch the textbooks he
covers.
Post by Tick-Tock Man
Post by G Singh
Maybe you will then be ready to address the issue of indoctrination and
get
Post by G Singh
past your "conjecturing".
Post by malanga
Post by G Singh
The many problems with Cuba and its dictator are there for all to
see.
Post by Tick-Tock Man
Post by G Singh
Post by malanga
Post by G Singh
However, the indoctrination through education is not a trait and
priority
Post by malanga
Post by G Singh
just to Cuba or communists. It is the top priority in "the Land of
the
Post by G Singh
Post by malanga
Post by G Singh
Free" as well. How else do you explain that Columbus "discovered"
America
Post by malanga
Post by G Singh
(overlooking the millions who were living here for millenia, also
overlooking other civilizations/peoples who had made contact prior
to
Post by Tick-Tock Man
Post by G Singh
Post by malanga
Post by G Singh
Columbus), and that so-called Indians (Native Americans) simply died
off
Post by G Singh
Post by malanga
Post by G Singh
(not killed off),
I can explain it by conjecturing that you haven't attended a history
class
Post by G Singh
Post by malanga
in the United States for...oh...about the last 30 years.
G Singh
2004-01-11 05:35:21 UTC
Permalink
Why is it that not even one person has begun to address the issue I have
raised? Instead, all that has been offered are ridiculously laughable
judgments. If you really are better than I, kindly enlighten me by
addressing the issue at hand and not blowing smoke. Using all-encompassing
words like "West" and "Civilization" and "hatred" exposes your lack of depth
and critical thinking.

I am not interested in labels. I am interested in truth, justice,
accountability and working towards a better future. Unless we know the
truth of what happened in the past, we cannot move forward without repeating
the same mistakes. Covering up present mistakes with the same myth that
characterizes most his-stories will get us nowhere we have not already been.

For your information, I do not hate any such west or east and certainly
would like to engage with a "better". Can you please inspire someone better
to join this exchange? I am not averse to learning, but for that to happen
someone will have to at least begin addressing the issue and stop passing
unqualified and undignified judgments ignorant of the issue on hand.
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I can tell you are part of the so called "progresist" left who hates the
west and continually attack it`s civilization and find fault in
everything,forgeting the atrocities being commited everywhere else and not
even try to offer a solution,so good luck with your hate of your betters.
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I would enjoy this exchange if your opinions had at least some basis in
reality. If you cannot even understand the basic concept of what I am
saying, perhaps it would be better for you not to respond.
What certain people call "revision" of history and really mean it
derisively, is really an attempt to describe things as they were from more
than one perspective. It is an attempt to get closer to the truth. Is
truth something you find worth working towards?
How about justice and accountability?
If you disagree with these then I strongly urge you to begin serious
introspection of your own humanity. And stop worrying so much about the
left or the right. Start worrying more about what is Right. Thank you.
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I agree with you that there`s is indoctrination in the US now,the left
is
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in
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charge of it, their goal.is the
trashing of America ,God and everything is decent.
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Your conjecturing is erroneous. For the sake of saving us discussion
that
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gets personal and skirts the issue raised, I shall offer something for
you
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to research yourself. James W. Loewen wrote a book called "Lies My
Teacher
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Told Me: Everything Your American History Textbook Got Wrong", which
was
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published in 1996 (Touchstone) and covers 12 US high school textbooks.
I
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urge you to read Loewen's book and also reasearch the textbooks he
covers.
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Maybe you will then be ready to address the issue of indoctrination
and
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get
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past your "conjecturing".
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The many problems with Cuba and its dictator are there for all to
see.
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However, the indoctrination through education is not a trait and
priority
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just to Cuba or communists. It is the top priority in "the Land
of
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the
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Free" as well. How else do you explain that Columbus "discovered"
America
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(overlooking the millions who were living here for millenia, also
overlooking other civilizations/peoples who had made contact prior
to
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Columbus), and that so-called Indians (Native Americans) simply
died
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off
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(not killed off),
I can explain it by conjecturing that you haven't attended a history
class
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in the United States for...oh...about the last 30 years.
malanga
2004-01-11 12:28:29 UTC
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Why is it that not even one person has begun to address the issue I have
raised? Instead, all that has been offered are ridiculously laughable
judgments.
Say...I'm sorry...let me address the issue directly....would you mind
telling us, just where in an American history class of say....the last three
decades....has the version of history you spouted been part of the
curricula?

Until then...well....I guess we'll laugh ridiculously.
G Singh
2004-01-11 19:06:51 UTC
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First of all, the issue is not history class but that of indoctrination, of
which history the way it is taught was forwarded by me as an example.

But since all the reactions to my post have concentrated on history, here
goes. My own history class in a high school in MN (which, at least at that
time was one of the best performing states in the country-educationally)
never gave the distinct impression that anything ghastly was done by the
colonizers of America (North and South). Snippets were mentioned, but never
focused upon. I do not doubt that they may have mentioned the "dying off"
of so-called Indians, but what that does is to misplace and misrepresent the
severity of what occured. The killing off of the Native Americans was a
genocide that has no parallel in human history. This is a fact. Before one
of you reacts to that, I advise you look at the definition of genocide and
then research the numbers of Natives who died or were killed as a result of
policy. If you do not think this was policy and a desired result, I advise
you to check out Ward Churchill's "A Little Matter of Genocide" and the
exhaustive research he has done.

I advise that before responding, people take the time to educate themselves
intead of assuming.

More importantly, this is a newsgroup that is meant to discuss human
rights. What I find are a few opinionated people who do not wish to engage
in an educated discussion about something that is fundamental. If you care
about human rights, then you cannot deny the genocide of Native Americans.
All you have to do is to seriously look into it, instead of reading the
simplistic and misleading accounts easily available.

If people are so upset by my mention of indoctrination through history and
the misrepresentation that is passed off as history, then that must mean you
assume you are sufficiently informed about the matters. I urge anyone who
replies to this post to please inform me of what they know about the
unparalleled genocide of Native Americans and the ways in which myth has led
people to believe we live in a land of equality and freedom. If you are not
willing to do that, then you are not serious about learning towards making
our nation-state a better place.

Anyone who feels I am unnecessarily being critical of the US should
understand that we live in the US and before we criticize others, let us
take the time to address the wrongs that have occured here. Some of them
are the worst in the history of humanity. I will be more than happy to
discuss other parts of the world and the rampant human rights violations
everywhere else after we get our own house in order.

After this post, I shall only respond to comments that are constructive and
not just childish, uninformed opinions. Please answer the questions,
especially about your knowledge of what you were taught and how that
affected you. Your posts betray your lack of empathy with the genocide,
since none of you even bothered to address or acknowledge it. Unless you
are willing to engage in a discussion that is related to the issue and human
rights, this forum is not the right place for you.
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Why is it that not even one person has begun to address the issue I have
raised? Instead, all that has been offered are ridiculously laughable
judgments.
Say...I'm sorry...let me address the issue directly....would you mind
telling us, just where in an American history class of say....the last three
decades....has the version of history you spouted been part of the
curricula?
Until then...well....I guess we'll laugh ridiculously.
malanga
2004-01-11 19:41:15 UTC
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Post by G Singh
First of all, the issue is not history class but that of indoctrination, of
which history the way it is taught was forwarded by me as an example.
But since all the reactions to my post have concentrated on history, here
goes. My own history class in a high school in MN (which, at least at that
time was one of the best performing states in the country-educationally)
never gave the distinct impression that anything ghastly was done by the
colonizers of America (North and South).
Ye gads sir...what you claim is a lot more than "a distinct impression
(yours, we note) that anything ghastly was done"..you've generalized and
made sweeping conclusions and, now, you make the charge that some force is
engaging in "indoctrination".
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Snippets were mentioned, but never
focused upon.
No doubt, they got past the "National Committee and Block Watch in Charge
of Indoctrination".
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I do not doubt that they may have mentioned the "dying off"
of so-called Indians, but what that does is to misplace and misrepresent the
severity of what occured. The killing off of the Native Americans was a
genocide that has no parallel in human history. This is a fact. Before one
of you reacts to that, I advise you look at the definition of genocide and
then research the numbers of Natives who died or were killed as a result of
policy. If you do not think this was policy and a desired result, I advise
you to check out Ward Churchill's "A Little Matter of Genocide" and the
exhaustive research he has done.
I advise that before responding, people take the time to educate themselves
intead of assuming.
{snip}
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Anyone who feels I am unnecessarily being critical of the US should
understand that we live in the US and before we criticize others, let us
take the time to address the wrongs that have occured here. Some of them
are the worst in the history of humanity. I will be more than happy to
discuss other parts of the world and the rampant human rights violations
everywhere else after we get our own house in order.
No doubt, the people of say, North Korea, will be ecstatic in knowing they
will have wait for you to decide that human rights is an issue that
trancends borders.

Heck...I bet they will erect statues of you the size of those they've
erected for Father Kim.
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After this post, I shall only respond to comments that are constructive and
not just childish, uninformed opinions. Please answer the questions,
especially about your knowledge of what you were taught and how that
affected you.
Let's see...how does one answer a self-appointed interrogator....I
know....cut and paste!

"I will be more than happy to discuss my knowledge of what I was taught and
how that affected you after I get my underwear drawer in order!"
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Your posts betray your lack of empathy with the genocide,
since none of you even bothered to address or acknowledge it.
Ah...another "distinct impression" of yours?

Amazing how some folk can get these whilst their head engaged in a close up
examination of their sigmoid colon.
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Unless you
are willing to engage in a discussion that is related to the issue and human
rights, this forum is not the right place for you.
Say...don't you know that no one gets thrown out of these forums until
alt.binaries.blingbling gets "it's house in order"?

Look it up!

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